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Do you understand grandfather rights?

No Initial CPC? You could be driving illegally

As you probably know, if you passed your HGV/PCV test before the introduction of the driver CPC training then you have grandfather or acquired rights. If not then you need to have completed your initial CPC before you can drive and this was the situation with one guy who booked onto one of our Driver CPC courses.

You’ll have ‘acquired rights’ if:

You are a lorry driver and got your vocational licence (C, C1, C+E and C1+E) before 10 September 2009


If you are a bus or coach driver and got your vocational licence (D, D1, D+E and D1+E) before 10 September 2008


If you have these acquired rights then you need to complete 35 hours of DSA certified driver CPC training by:

September 2013 for PCV license holders


September 2014 for HGV license holders

This is where the confusion started. One of the guys who came to attend a Driver CPC course had actually passed his HGV test in January of 2010 and therefore didn’t have grandfather rights.

For people in this situation they need to have completed their initial Driver CPC qualification before they are allowed to drive for a living.

The Initial Driver CPC is merged with the driving test and comes in four parts

Part 1 – theory test
(2 separate tests – multiple-choice and hazard perception)

Part 2 – Driver CPC case studies test

Part 3 – driving ability test (The Driving Test)

Part 4 – Driver CPC practical demonstration test

In this particular case, the candidate had not completed part 4. This meant until he did complete the last part he was unable to attend the course, as the DSA would simply reject his name if I attempted to upload it, and he was also committing an offence by driving an HGV in his current job.

At first he didn’t take me seriously when advised of such, but was shocked when discovering I was indeed speaking facts.

This is not the only case where someone has booked on a course to find out they are driving illegally and we have had quite a few people phone up to find out where they stand with regards to acquired rights. So I wondered, how many other people are in the same position and don’t even realise it.

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